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| TomRob | Post subject: Re: Re: Training pages useful? | |
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 | PGL wrote: I think the idea is not to get there in the first place!
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Definitely, learnt that one the hard way... I was a bit slow on the uptake against it, so when I was there could do little about it... was a little unsure what you meant by the stick diagrams though :-/ Im having a retard day
I like the suggestion of pushing off with the paddles, particularly as they shouldn't be able to do a lot to prevent it...
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Mon 8th Jun, 2009
3:03pm |
| Mick Dundee | Post subject: Re: Re: Training pages useful? | |
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 | Jon wrote:| I noticed that it wouldn't count as an obstruction as you were presumably within the 6 metre area. Does this mean that any form of obstruction is ok within 6m of the goal line? For example: can I prevent a player from the opposing team getting to the ball, while my team mate gets the ball? There's also nothing in the rule on illegal jostling to disallow this. |
Someone raised this question on canoepolo.com. I don't think anyone came up with an answer.
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Mon 8th Jun, 2009
6:28pm |
| Potter | Post subject: Re: Re: Re: Training pages useful? | |
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 | Mick Dundee wrote:| Or once you're in there, force your paddle between your and their boat, and do the strokes you need. You don't have to chop their hands to do that, so it shouldn't be a paddle foul. |
Does that count as pushing off an opposition player?
With the 2 defenders, what would happen if you recieved the ball, touched it against one of their paddles, and therefor got a free shot? would they have to unpin you to allow you to take it?
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Mon 8th Jun, 2009
6:39pm |
| Dizzee Sno | Post subject: Re: Training pages useful? | |
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 | I think what Mick meant was sliding your blade down the thin gap between the boats and then putting a paddle stroke in. You'd be pulling back on water, putting no force on their boat.
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Mon 8th Jun, 2009
9:20pm |
| TomRob | Post subject: Re: Training pages useful? | |
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| you can't pull on water though, because to pull your stroke in you'd either have to push off their boat, or put a feeble stroke in whilst putting the top of your paddle practically inside the defending player... this might be a hell of a lot easier to actually try later
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Tue 9th Jun, 2009
11:58am |
| The Baron | Post subject: Re: Training pages useful? | |
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 | I think it would be very annoying for the 'meat' in this particular sandwich, but it would not be the greatest of attacking tactics as it ocupies less players than it takes to perform the manouver.
That said the defender should probably not let themselves be pushed into such a possition in the first place.
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Tue 9th Jun, 2009
12:16pm |
| TomRob | Post subject: Re: Training pages useful? | |
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| Agree on both points, I think its simply a tactic for when only one player attacks the zone, as they can do very little damage once pinned, but the defenders can easily peel away to defend again...
Dunno, I may play with it later tonight, or may decide that any tactic stolen from nottingham is ultimately a little too mincy
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Tue 9th Jun, 2009
1:50pm |
| The Baron | Post subject: Re: Training pages useful? | |
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 | Ok my bad, didn't read the original post but some points still aply.
It's not a great defensive tactic as it occupies more players than it imobilises opposition players.
An attacker most certainly should aim to distract the attention of two defending players, but should not allow them to reduce his/her mobillity too much.
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Tue 9th Jun, 2009
1:58pm |
| The Baron | Post subject: Re: Training pages useful? | |
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| This game shows some prime examples of '5 out' being used in an offensive defensive way, keep an eye on the orange ones. An excellent example of hard work paying of in the second half from 6:50 to 7:20.
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Thu 11th Jun, 2009
1:23pm |
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| White Ninja | Post subject: Re: Re: Re: Training pages useful? | |
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 | Mick Dundee wrote:
Someone raised this question on canoepolo.com. I don't think anyone came up with an answer.
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ha ha ha ha ha
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Sat 13th Jun, 2009
8:44pm |
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